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Campus Chatter – October 13, 2012

October 13, 2012

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Campus Chatter – October 13, 2012

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The Vandals and Alans crossed the Pyrenees into Hispania today (409). Also, hundreds of Knights Templar were arrested (1307), Charles Messier discovered the Whirlpool Galaxy (1773), the Continental Congress established what is now the U.S. Navy (1775), the cornerstone of the White House was laid (1792), Texas voters approved the new constitution that enabled U.S. statehood (1845), Eliezer Ben-Yehuda revived the Hebrew language (1881), Greenwich was adopted as the Universal Time meridian (1884), the Georgia Institute of Technology was founded (1885), Edward Emerson Barnard discovered the comet D/1892 T1 (1892), an estimated 70,000 people witnessed “The Miracle of the Sun” in Fatima, Portugal (1917), the Treaty of Kars established Turkey’s northern borders (1921) and Ankara became her capital (1923), Paddington Bear premiered (1958), Frederick Murphy made the first electron micrograph of the Ebola virus (1976), and Ameritech Mobile Communications, now AT&T, launched the first cellular network in Chicago, Illinois (1983). And all 33 miners were rescued after being trapped for 69 days by the cave-in of a copper and gold mine in Copiapó, Chile (2010).

Good morning! ::hugggggs::

  • NCrissieB

    Yesterday on Campus

    Morning FeaturePaul Ryan’s Not-Ready-For-Prime-Time Debut
    Midday Matinee – triciawyse with Frieday Critters
    Campus QuestionAre Republicans in denial on the importance of health insurance?

    Today on Campus

    Morning FeatureMitt Romney, Lies, Faith, and Confirmation Bias (Non-Cynical Saturday)
    Noontime News at noon
    Campus Question at 6pm ET

  • http://cendax.wordpress.com Norbrook

    Good morning! It’s currently 25 degrees here, and clearing. It’s supposed to be clear all day, but rain predicted for tonight. Yesterday we had our first snow, but nothing sticking. Mostly it was melting as it fell, at least at our elevation. The mountain tops had some white on them.

    We’re near the “final wind-up” portion of field season. I’ve pulled the batteries from the field – they’re marine 12V batteries, not “D cell” – and our maintenance projects are winding to a close. We didn’t get to all the things I had planned, but that’s usually the case. Next up is to pull our work dock out to winter storage, which needs a relatively calm day to do that. From the looks of the weather report, next Tuesday or Wednesday is going to be the day. From that point on, it’s going to be mostly “clean-up and pack.”

    • winterbanyan

      And thus the season comes to an end. After listening to your travails this summer, Norbrook, I’d like to know: Did you accomplish more than you expected even though it was less than you hoped? And do you feel better about the coming season?

      Are you going to be spending the next month in planning conferences?

      • http://cendax.wordpress.com Norbrook

        Seriously? I think I accomplished less than I expected, but given the numerous issues that arose, did fairly well. While I knew I don’t get the easy assignments, I had no idea walking in that things had been neglected for so long, and that I was facing a major overhaul project I do feel better about next year, in that I now have a handle on “what’s next” and I’ve made the case for some better equipment.

        I’m spending the next month doing numerous reports. The planning conferences aren’t until January. ;-)

        • http://cendax.wordpress.com Norbrook

          Oh, and in the shameless self-promotion category, I have a blog post up about my job. :lol:

          • winterbanyan

            I will definitely check it out a little later. Being sparing of the eyes here….

        • winterbanyan

          That sounds like a fair evaluation to me. I’m truly glad to know you feel better about next year, given that you have a handle on the situation now and know what’s waiting. Well, except for some surprises winter may bring. ;)

          • http://cendax.wordpress.com Norbrook

            I always hate to plan for “next year,” at least until it’s locked in. Why I say that is that there’s another assignment that was until this year, the “prime assignment,” which has become a hot mess. Which means that my bosses may decide that my talents would be better utilized … :cry:

    • NCrissieB

      I bet you’re looking forward to the “clean up and pack” part … and even more so the “leaving” part that comes afterward. ;-)

      Good morning! ::hugggggs::

  • winterbanyan

    Good morning, everyone. :)

    I made a comment last night in Question that I’d like to point folks to if they missed it because it’s the kind of personal story that will counter the GOP lies about how you get the same treatment with or without insurance. Personal stories are always good in conversation.

    I’d like to add to it here. The simple and much overlooked fact by those who claim “you get the same treatment in the ER whether you’re rich or poor” (and that much is true) is that what happens afterward is what makes a huge difference. If you have no insurance, will you be discharged immediately after you are stabilized. You will not be able to get follow-up care, lab tests to verify how well you are doing and whether prescribed medications are working. You will not get physical therapy, and you may not be able to buy those meds. There are, indeed, many things you will not be able to get after you are discharged that a person on insurance expects. Your outcome will not therefore be the same.

    It probably won’t be the same anyway, because when you walk into that ER you won’t be in as good general physical shape as the person with insurance.

    I once had a doctor, 25 years ago, who shocked me by being the first doctor I ever heard who advocated for National Health Care. His argument: I get called to the ER all the time to take people who never would have wound up there if they had been able to see a doctor routinely. I go, I do my best, and I usually don’t get paid for it. It would be better for everyone if we had national health care.

    A remarkably progressive attitude at a time when most of the profession fought the concept tooth and nail.

    Hugggs!

    • Gardener

      Hugggs to you too dear winter!

      One of my Docs started calling the ACA “Romneycare” months ago….. :smile: :smile:

      • winterbanyan

        :lol: Gardener. Love it!

    • http://cendax.wordpress.com Norbrook

      Early last year, I wrote a blog post about my own travails, and the difference between having insurance and not having it. The idea that you get “great care” in an ER is particularly stupid. Having worked in a hospital, I know that the ER is usually the place you go when you’re deathly ill, and it costs a lot more money.

      • winterbanyan

        It’s certainly a wasteful way to get healthcare. And sometimes deadly when the situation need not have been.

        • http://cendax.wordpress.com Norbrook

          It’s worse when you consider rural areas. The nearest ER for me is 60 miles away. The local clinic has a “sliding scale program” for those of limited means, but the reality check is that you still have to pay up-front for any prescriptions, and you’re still on the hook for any of the non-prescription items.

          • NCrissieB

            The studies I read suggest that if you go to a great ER, you’ll get great care, regardless of your means. Likewise, if you go to a mediocre ER, you’ll get mediocre care, regardless of your means. To that very limited extent, we do have “equal access to health care,” but that limited extent misses so much that it’s misleading to make the statement without admitting you’ve chosen to ignore all of the predictable and persistent inequalities.

            Good morning! ::hugggggs::

    • NCrissieB

      Thank you for that story, winterbanyan. We touch on that topic again in today’s Morning Feature – as an example in exploring how and why Mitt Romney lies – and with citations to our Morning Feature article from last October that explored how wealth affects health care outcomes.

      Good morning! ::hugggggs::

    • addisnana

      Good example and I will be telling that story as I go out door knocking today.

  • Gardener

    Good morning!

    We have 54 degrees right now, with a predicted high in the 80′s later on. Also some strong storms coming……

    How about those no-quit Cardinals, eh? Pulled it out of the fire again!

    Yesterday AM was spent hauling tree limbs and the main tree trunk of the damaged tree we had felled in the yard weeks ago. Was waiting for dry soil conditions, figured I’d better settle for what we had……… Worked a couple of hours in the afternoon for the township, but didn’t mow far enough, will finish today I guess…….. The Commissioner wasn’t too upset about my mistake, thanks Cous’!

    If you haven’t seen any of the VP debate and have the ability to watch online somehow, I’d do it. Does the soul a lot of good to see old Joe beat up on that Eddie Munster punk!

    Best, G

    • winterbanyan

      How strong are the storms supposed to be? And yeah, with that prediction I’d have gotten on that tree myself. Unless I wanted to wait a long time…. ;)

      I was in St. Louis one night when the Cardinals played. Our hotel was full of them. Unfortunately, I needed a cab (had to switch hotels at the last minute) just as the game was letting out. Holy cow!

      A twenty to the bell captain got us a cab. Never in my life saw a man move so fast to tell others, “That cab is already reserved.” Hah! Given the hour of night and the absolute jam on the streets, it was twenty well-spent!

      Go Cards!

    • NCrissieB

      I haven’t been following the baseball playoffs – neither the Rays nor the Red Sox are in the hunt – but congratulations on the Cards’ victory and good luck in the next round against the Giants. :)

      Good morning! ::hugggggs::

    • trs

      Rub it in, G… As a typical Cub fan, I tend to root for the Cubs and whoever the Cards are playing. In this house, we’re disappointed that the Orioles are now out of it. The only team left that I have even marginal good feelings about is Detroit.

      • Gardener

        If it helps, my buddy Harley Rich is a Cub fan. Tch-tch……. ;-)

        • trs

          Knew there was something I liked about HR!

          • Gardener

            :smile: :smile:

  • trs

    Good morning. 30 here currently, with an expected high of 59. Finished the electrical on the garage yesterday, and installed a threshold for the entrance door. The homeowners love the garage, and have now decided they want to seal the cedar siding (which I had suggested when I started the project. That’ll take a few more days.

    Kidlet and iriti did a bit of a shopping spree last night – Homecoming dance is next Saturday. Kidlet found some heels she likes. It’s a good thing her boyfriend is 6’4″ – Kidlet is 5’10 1/2″ without heels.

    Today, shopping. Then headed to DC for the Kossack Meet-up.

    • NCrissieB

      Ahh … The Big Dance. I remember the days, both for myself and for the Springoffs. Oddly, I remember the preparations – like the shopping sprees – more than the dances themselves. I’m glad you and Iriti took Kidlet for that, and I suspect she’ll remember y’all’s shared joy in that shopping trip more than she remembers the homecoming dance.

      Good morning! ::hugggggs::

      • trs

        Iriti did a solo on that one last night. She likes to go shopping right after she gets off work, and I got home shortly before she did. I wasn’t going anywhere after work without a shower first. ;-)

  • addisnana

    Good morning. Today and tomorrow are our GOTV dry run. At least the weather forecast has changed from thunderstorms to small chance of sprinkles. 10 am to 9 pm. We are working out of a union hall, which feels good even just to type.

    I think I have enough jacket options in the back seat of my car already.

    • NCrissieB

      Our local party met in a union hall … and will again once they finish repairs. They had a leak and the hall is closed for a few months, so in the meantime we’re meeting elsewhere. And I agree, it feels nice to meet there. :)

      Good morning! ::hugggggs::

    • winterbanyan

      Have a great day doing the good work, addisnana. :) I hope the rain holds off, or that at least you don’t have to contend with lightning.

      We have a huge respect for lightning down here.

  • addisnana

    I just got a 500 error and a 503 error. Seems to be resolved now. Anyone else see this?

    • NCrissieB

      I did too. It was probably a server glitch at our host.

      Good morning! ::hugggggs::